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Linux now has a code of conduct aknowledging "gender identity"

1 2023-01-26 15:41

In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=8a104f8b5867c682d994ffa7a74093c54469c11f

2 2023-01-26 17:31

Cool!

3 2023-01-26 20:19

I will probably switch to OpenBSD if things get too bad (and if the CoCk is actually enforced). I will probably get better version of Xorg for free, too! Or perhaps I will be crazy enough to switch to NetBSD or DragonFlyBSD? Haiku is also an option, now that they have ported GNU Emacs to it! But I guess that dfly has so few developers that if I switch to it, I will need to become developers as well (but I'm afraid I don't have the required skills, i just know enough C to understand the K&R book).

4 2023-01-26 20:38

Ok, cool. I don't see the need to post this, but whatever. It's nice to see more people being open minded and accepting towards differences anyway.

I will probably switch to OpenBSD if things get too bad

Too bad in what way?

5 2023-01-26 22:12

>>4
ok groomer

6 2023-01-26 23:43

>>1
Why don't these ever include politics? I don't recall "choosing" my politics anymore than my education level, experience, or religion.

7 2023-01-27 08:06

>>6

I don't recall "choosing" my politics

Maybe read more books? I recommend starting with this one: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-full

8 2023-01-27 10:09

>>7
https://www.anus.com/

9 2023-01-27 10:36

linux hasnt been a fun community project to hack on for like 2 decades now, in practice its development is owned by silicon valley corporations
i really dont get why people get so attached to software either way though, people who make/consume youtube videos on operating systems have always confused me
i wish there were more schizos out there trying to build their own operating systems and unseat gnu+linux instead of boring faggots gossiping about existing ones

10 2023-01-27 17:14

>>5
huh?

11 2023-01-27 18:36 *

>>10
It's some tourist from /g/, just ignore them.

12 2023-01-27 21:17

>>4

Too bad in what way?

If the project becomes too political or if people start getting "canceled". I get that we live in a society and that collaboration requires a little bit of politics but injecting unnecessary politics into everything ruins things and makes everyone feel uncomfortable. People should be expected to behave like adults.

13 2023-01-28 10:09 *

>>12
If it makes people like >>5 too uncomfortable to shit up the mailing lists like they shit up this board, it's working as intended.

14 2023-01-28 12:03 *

>>13
You haven't been lurking the mailing lists. It's a difference in moderation.

15 2023-01-28 15:52

>>13
Sorry, but that's pretty naive way of thing about this because trolls won't follow rules or CoCks.

16 2023-01-29 08:04

What I want to know is does this really affect you personally? I've never had to submit patches to Linux. If I ever had the need to submit patches to Linux, I'd never be fucking around that I would ever trip the CoC.

17 2023-01-30 18:55

>>12
dude, all that that CoC said was to respect people's identities and not throw hate on them based on ethnicity, gender, sexuality, etc. that's all it says. it's just about respect. if you aren't respectful, you get booted out. it's not your role to debate someone's gender or whatever, you just *agree to disagree* and move on. working on open source is ultimately about good code and respect. making 41% jokes, for example (it's JUST an example, i'm not saying that you do that), doesn't involve code nor respect.

People should be expected to behave like adults

getting worked up on a document that tells people to behave like adults is not adult behavior.

18 2023-01-30 20:12

>>15
Trolls will get blocked in the Linux dev community for breaking the CoC.

19 2023-01-30 21:26

What's the fucking point? what does gender identity have anything to do with improving the kernel?

20 2023-01-31 00:28

Couldn't that just be abreviated with: Personal attacks will not be tolerated?

21 2023-01-31 01:57

It would seem dignified.

22 2023-01-31 18:48

>>20
No, they have to imply that a man can be a woman.

23 2023-02-06 07:34

>>19
it's not about the kernel.
this is bloat.
this is about control.

Man the troons are going to set themselves up to be killed in a horrific slaughter one of these days.

24 2023-02-06 12:12

So this is why kernel quality has been declining.

25 2023-02-09 03:13

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26 2023-02-14 21:49

My main objection to most CoC is this: https://github.com/EthicalSource/contributor_covenant/issues/711. The second problem is that if you accept contradictory notion such as gender identity (that is not capable of giving a clean definition of the terms it uses), you can derive any accusation if you want. If a project doesn't ensure any "checks and balances", it becomes easier to exclude undesired people for alterior reasons from participating. But this is all theoretical, it would require a emperical analysis of actual incidents in the past to decide if CoC are effective, ineffective or destructive.

27 2023-02-15 16:26

Hitler was right.

28 2023-02-15 17:40 *

>>27
Come on, Hitler has nothing to do with freedom of speech or resisting oppressive CoCks.

29 2023-02-15 18:10 *

>>25
Optimize your quotes.

30 2023-03-01 02:17 *

>>25
/pol/ and its consequences have been a disaster for every text/imageboard.

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