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Practical alternatives to Unix and Windows

1 2022-01-18 04:19

What operating system should I use if I want to avoid both Unix and Windows? Are there alternatives to Windows and Unix-like operating systems that can be used for practical daily tasks (e.g. word processing, web browsing, light programming, etc.)? The Windows and POSIX duopoly looks like a huge impediment to progress.

2 2022-01-18 07:04

What do you mean by progress? What is meaning of reprogramming fully functional applications for the popular OS platforms only to have the exact same functionality on a "progressive OS"?

3 2022-01-18 07:52

HAIKU

4 2022-01-18 10:53 *

https://9front.org/

5 2022-01-18 12:35

>>3
>>4
Both are good but these systems are Unix based AFAIK.

6 2022-01-18 17:39

Unix based in the sense that they have similar looking FS namespaces and a POSIX wrapper around their API but a lot of basic ideas are very different.
How far do you want to go? Get rid of the FS and use a database of some sort instead? Palm OS did that, I'd love an open source version.

7 2022-01-18 20:54 *

>>5,6
Plan 9 is like Unix but more Unixey than Unix. It's like Unix². Understandable from the people who created Unix. If you dislike Unix, you'll probably hate Plan 9.

Plan 9 is not Unix. If you think of it as Unix, you may become frustrated when something doesn't exist or when it works differently than you expected. If you think of it as Plan 9, however, you'll find that most of it works very smoothly, and that there are some truly neat ideas that make things much cleaner than you have seen before.

8 2022-01-18 21:49

>>7
It depends on why one thinks unix is bad. In some ways, plan9 is a better unix.
But it's still based on unix, so it's really not fundamentally different.

I wonder how serious is the op though. It's "in" to hate unix, not without reason. But there seems to be no real alternative, and it's impractical to stop using computer because the system is bad. How dependent are you on the internal mechanism of your system for stuff like "word processing, web browsing, light programming, etc"? Actually, nevermind. Unix bad, webshit somehow acceptable?
TempleOS maybe. But it doesn't provide networking.

9 2022-01-18 22:02

MenuetOS?

10 2022-01-19 13:54 *

>>8
If Temple OS with networking is wanted there's Shrine but C bad, Holy-C doesn't fix it.

Unix bad, webshit somehow acceptable?

You're on a site mostly past webshit but still requires the unacceptable HTTP, /sexpr/.

11 2022-01-20 01:03 *

>>10
What's a good alternative to HTTP? IPFS?

12 2022-01-20 08:26 *

>>11
This is Scheme BBS so i will have to say Chaosnet for /sexpr/ but that doesn't cover data enteric networking like IPFS. Different use case both weren't made for but can be used as a leaky basis for data enteric networking.

13 2022-01-20 10:03

>>12
From the GNU Manifesto:

We will try to support UUCP, MIT Chaosnet, and Internet protocols for communication.

Yet another broken promise by the GNU liars.

https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html

14 2022-01-20 13:17 *

>>13
This is why Scheme BBS is cursed.

15 2022-01-20 22:23

Ha Ha temple os forever!

16 2022-01-21 17:04

web browsing

There are no modern browsers outside of Windows and *nix.

17 2022-01-21 17:42

>>16

modern

Close enough http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/

18 2022-01-21 17:42

>>16
You forgot Android.

19 2022-01-21 20:28

>>13
here we go again

20 2022-01-22 12:08

>>1
The Windows and POSIX duopoly looks like a huge impediment to progress.
Agreed. We must leave POSIX only to survive as a species.

21 2022-01-22 13:35 *

>>16

There are no modern browsers outside of Windows and *nix.

Haiku has a webkit browser (Haiku is POSIX), and Plan9 you can setup a "browser as a service" by having it stream through X11 from a Linux machine. If netsurf is sufficient you could also use RISC OS, Atari, or Amiga.

22 2022-01-22 16:17

was 9.2 the latest version for windows? ´-`)

23 2022-01-22 16:18 *

>>22
hell noes
wrong thread

24 2022-01-25 07:41

Ouhhh

25 2022-01-25 07:42

I meant:
I wanna nakadashi windows tan and POSIX tan, theyre both unescapable doupolies and we cant do shit about it. But one of them is actually good except some hipsters denying it

26 2022-05-18 11:05

>>1

avoid both Unix and Windows

Welcome to FreeDOS.
https://www.freedos.org

27 2022-05-18 13:07

>>1
XINU
https://xinu.cs.purdue.edu

28 2022-05-18 18:59 *

Haiku OS
Temple OS
Collapse OS
Mezzano

29 2023-04-27 12:16

>>3
>>28
Can you actually run Haiku on bare metal? Does it support modern web in any way? I assume it doesn't. Is it secure?

30 2023-05-07 17:31

modern web

If you're going to put a bloated javascript machine why bother looking for a decent os ffs

31 2023-05-08 01:25

>>29
I did years ago, it crashes a lot. It has very good hardware support for WiFi now and there are multiple browsers for it.

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