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Women in Lisp

1 2022-02-03 06:20

Is there a huge gender imbalance in the Lisp world? If so, what are the causes, and what should we do about it?

2 2022-02-03 07:57

That's C.

3 2022-02-04 07:23

just imagine... shiro kawai, the guy, besides fucking cute japanese actresses, would fuck lisp-gals...
our lord jesus christ, spare me from such envy!

4 2022-02-04 08:12

Is there a huge gender imbalance in the C world? If so, what are the causes, and what should we do about it?

5 2022-02-04 08:35 *

>>4
Use Lisp.

6 2022-02-04 22:28

Use Rust if you're into troonware.

7 2022-02-04 22:33

>>6
Women, anon.

8 2022-02-05 02:37

>>7
>>6-xan has a point Lisp is has a nonbinary gender imbalance and so does C.

9 2022-02-05 03:20 *

>>8
If it's non-binary then what is it? Ternary? Octal?

10 2022-02-05 06:58

>>9
>>6-xan seams to be two joint ternary gates as it's fundamental logic gate, I'm octal and decimal.

11 2022-02-05 09:47

wtf is a -xan?

12 2022-02-05 11:55

>>11
honorific
***-chan

13 2022-02-05 15:36

I've taught women scheme. They always regret it. Despite what they say women are far happier as homemakers.

14 2022-02-05 16:51

I don't buy it. Nobody ever regretted learning Scheme.

15 2022-02-05 18:08 *

I don't buy it. No woman would have such a sustained interaction with you.

16 2022-02-05 19:16

I'm modeling a woman in Scheme. It's a simple Read-Eval-Talk about something else-Loop.

17 2022-02-05 23:52

Women should learn programming for home automation.

18 2022-02-06 04:21

I suggest that we fork R7RS-small into R7RS-youths. The youth wing of the Scheme International shall recruit and train youths for future Schemes in a more gender balanced manner.

19 2022-02-06 08:25

>>17
We don't have software for that.

20 2022-02-06 17:29

>>19
All political lemmings agree, women can make the software for that.
Here's the american english proof.

Women are intelligent strong and independent, they can write code.
Women are not intelligent strong or independent. Women are intelligent strong and independent enough for house work. Coding with kitchen sinks is housework.

We don't have enough disgruntled maids and butlers for that.

21 2022-02-07 06:58

>>20
No they can't. Even men with all their superior power couldn't write anything except one or two number crunchers and lots of crapware requiring more crapware to use it, women can't do it even more so.

22 2022-02-07 07:22 *

>>21
Stop leaking that we're aliens. The crapware is going to infect everything.

23 2022-03-07 17:06

We have to do something about the gender imbalance before the violent gender equality extremists assassinate male Lispers one by one until gender quality is reached.

24 2022-03-08 10:01

what should we do about it?

Write artificially intelligent waifus in Lisp and count them as women. Gender inequality resolved.

25 2022-07-15 07:26

I think there should be a quota on male Lisp programmers. For every male Lisp programmer, there should be at least one female Lisp programmer. Wannabe Lisp programmers who happen to be male would just have to placed on a waiting list. Males who want to become a Lisp programmer would have to find one female Lisp programmer willing to "sponsor" them. In this way, equality can be achieved and universal peace will follow.

26 2022-07-15 11:18

Славімо Лейн

27 2022-07-15 12:52

>>26
If only I could understand this weird woman language.

28 2022-07-15 14:28

r8rs is coming soon with one major change: a CoC to be more inclusive to women, transgenders, shit like that.

29 2022-07-15 15:49 *

I fucking hate how this is the only Scheme forum online and all you can talk about is stupid shit like this.

30 2022-07-15 16:29

>>29
Know any good textboards?

31 2022-07-15 19:22

>>29
Be the change you want to see in this world.

32 2022-07-16 02:14

>>29
I apologize for the offense caused by this thread.

... all you can talk about is stupid shit like this.

Could you tell me what is "stupid" in this thread, so that I could avoid posting "stupid shit" in the future?

33 2022-07-17 20:59

I simply couldn't avoid these dub

34 2022-07-19 01:45

is scheme flat-chested?

35 2022-07-19 02:04

>>34
Some would call it a minimal figure.
Yet perfection isn't attained by adding...
but by removing everything unessential

36 2022-07-19 06:46

>>35

removing everything unessential

Such as hygienic macros, which can be replaced by simpler and more versatile unhygienic macros.

37 2022-07-19 13:07

But then you get all dirty bcos hygiene

38 2022-07-20 18:16

Unlike men, women can do a real thing -- give birth to a human being.

Men have to sublimate the real thing with art, craft, hobbies and other bullshit surrogate activities to feel fulfillment in life. Women don't have to at least if they are not diseased with woke feminist illness.

The irony is men surrogate activities started technology. When you are a smart man, you can discover and create actually useful things, not only rice your Arch Linux to show up in a /g/ desktop thread.

39 2022-07-20 20:38 *

Women don't have to at least if they are not diseased with woke feminist illness.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/atlanta-spa-shootings-men-rage-sex-addiction
Why do so many straight men come to resent the women they find attractive?
To be able to experience sexual attraction without it becoming a source of rage requires a degree of respect that the Atlanta suspect, and men like him, do not possess
Thu 18 Mar 2021 14.44 GMT

It’s unclear if Robert Aaron Long, the 21-year-old white man who killed eight people on Tuesday – seven of them women, and six of them Asian women – in a mass shooting across three different massage parlors in the Atlanta area, even knew his victims’ names. After he was arrested and taken into police custody unharmed, Long promptly took responsibility for the shootings. He told officers that he had frequented the massage parlors, which appear to sell sexual services, and that he considers himself to be suffering from a “sex addiction”. He claims that he shot up the massage parlors in order to rid himself of “temptation”. By “temptation” he means, presumably, the temptation that was presented by the women’s existence, and which he thought could be eliminated once they were no longer alive.

Long’s attacks come after a long year of mounting hate crimes and street harassment against Asian people. Reports of anti-Asian hate crimes are up 150% over the past year, and many speculate that the rise in anti-Asian hatred has been provoked by the racist fearmongering of Donald Trump and other Republican politicians, who have blamed the Covid-19 pandemic on what they hatefully term the “China virus”.

Long’s acts have also illuminated the vulnerability of sex workers, whose industry is largely illegal and unregulated, and who have few protections as workers and few opportunities to advocate for better pay, safer working conditions, or greater control over their own bodies and images, and few avenues to avoid or de-escalate confrontations with the police – who frequently arrest, incarcerate or deport sex workers on the flimsy and paternalistic pretext of “rescue”. As sex workers’ rights advocates have long and eloquently argued, the answer to sex workers’ vulnerability is not more policing, as police have often been the source of sex workers’ suffering. Instead, decriminalization will keep sex workers out of jails and prisons – and robust immigration reform will allow those sex workers who come to the US from other countries to work and organize without the exacerbating pressures of possible deportation and debt. When people cannot work in the open, either due to the fear of arrest or deportation, they will not stop working. They will keep working, but under clandestine conditions that make them more vulnerable to exploitation and abuse. As a practical matter, these policy interventions are needed for sex workers to live with greater safety and dignity.

Long, if we are to take his own account seriously, seems to have killed the women because he, personally, found them attractive. His account of his own motive points to a broader problem not only with the status of sex work, but with the dynamics of heterosexuality in a culture that prizes male strength and female submission: Long seems to have experienced his own desire for the women who worked at the parlors as enraging, offensive and intolerable.

The conflation of sexual desire and hate for the object of that desire in male heterosexuality is a pattern that becomes obvious once you know how to look for it. Sexual culture abounds with the eroticized contempt of women, and with the understanding of straight sex, in particular, as implicitly adversarial – a needlessly reductive and limiting understanding of heterosexuality, yet nevertheless a popular one. There is some evidence that even the police officers who arrested Long feel some empathy with his experience of desire for women as an affliction or affront. At a press conference, Jay Baker, the Cherokee county captain, said of Long’s rampage: “He was pretty much fed up and at the end of his rope. It was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did.” The characterization of a man who killed seven women as the victim of a “really bad day” doesn’t make sense unless the person making that claim understands Long’s hatred of attractive women as at least a somewhat legitimate grievance.

40 2022-07-20 20:40 *

Why do so many straight men come to resent and hate the women they find attractive? Maybe it’s a question of power. People often experience being sexually attracted to someone as if that person has a kind of power over them, and for a straight, white man like Long, positioned at the top of so many social hierarchies, this is likely one of his most acute experiences of another person’s power that he has ever faced. For men socialized in a sexist culture where rigid strictures of masculinity dictate that another person’s power over a man constitutes a failure of his masculinity, attraction to a woman can be interpreted as a threat posed by that woman – at least, it can for men of especially weak character. It is not hard to deduce how a racist and sexist man, reared in a culture of white supremacy and masculine entitlement, could experience his own powerlessness over his attraction to the women at the spas as a distressing humiliation. To be able to experience sexual attraction to another person without that feeling becoming a source of shame and rage requires a degree of self assurance and respect that Long, and men like him, evidently do not possess.

But if some men understand their attraction to women as a kind of power that those women hold over them, for women themselves, it often doesn’t feel that way. Unsolicited male sexual attention can often be experienced as threatening – in part, because it is often communicated as a threat. Few women do not have stories of being harassed in public with expressions of desire from male strangers that are explicitly framed as anger. Women receive unsolicited messages from men on social media who begin polite but revert to rageful invectives when rejected or not indulged. Most brutally, when women are murdered, it is usually by a current or former male sex partner – someone who found them attractive. One UK study found that 61% of women killed by men are murdered by a current or former romantic partner. In the US, 1,527 women were killed by a romantic partner in 2017 – more than four women a day. These varying aggressions are not morally equal and do not impact women in the same way, but they do all contain the simultaneous expression of male desire and male rage. If men feel that when they are attracted to a woman, that woman necessarily has more power than they do in their interactions, they should perhaps consider how often men’s attraction to women is communicated with the threat of that desire being enforced, and of the woman being punished for it.

Punishment for his own desire seems to be something that Long wanted to inflict upon the women he killed. It is interesting that Long identifies himself has experiencing sex addiction, a phrase that casts his desire for the women he killed into the realm of the medical. Wanting these women, in his mind, is something that happened to him. But when he felt discomfort with his own sexual desires, Long did not address this discomfort with a therapist or a religious leader. He did not go into a 12-step program for sex addiction – several of which are available, free and active in the Atlanta area. He did not seek out a friend for advice. Instead, he killed seven women and one man. Because he understood his desire as their power – he also understood his desire as their responsibility.

Long says that he patronized the spas where he committed his murders, but it’s unclear if he was ever attended to by any of the women he killed. If he was, it’s not clear whether or not he knew their names. But we do know the names of some of these women. They were Xiaojie Tan, Daoyou Feng, Delania Ashley Yaun Gonzalez, Julie Park and Heyeon Jeong Park. Each one of them deserved better.

41 2022-07-20 21:33 *

>>39
>>40

Hi, nigger. Don't care about your amerimutt problems, there is no mass shooting in my country.

42 2022-07-22 05:25 *

>>41

Hi, wigger. Importing amerimutt niggers to your country, it's too peaceful.

43 2022-07-22 11:07 *

>>42

everything is amerimutt-diseased West

Check your privilege, mutt.

44 2023-02-26 05:00

>>1

Hire them from playboy! 😗 http://oimoral.com/flavia-alessandra-nua-na-playboy

45 2023-02-26 13:31 *

I become a girl when I program in Scheme!

46 2023-03-02 08:36 *

>>43
Check your bank account, goyim.

47 2023-03-03 14:29 *

I become a Schemer in order to program a girl!

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