[ prog / sol / mona ]

prog


Simple alternatives to the World Wide Web

1 2022-05-21 08:19

The World Wide Web is becoming increasingly complex. Web browsing requires a web browser, which is a very complex piece of specialized software. Are there simple alternatives to the World Wide Web? Simple in terms of protocol, and in terms of the data format, which should be easy to parse and render.

2 2022-05-21 11:08

Lynx is the text web browser
w3m
Firefox with umatrix configured for no CSS and no Javascript

3 2022-05-21 12:20

Are there simple alternatives to the World Wide Web?

Gopher and Gemini. You can use Lynx or Amfora.
Also:
https://gopher.zone/
https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/

4 2022-05-21 13:14

Agree with >>4. Gopher and gemini. Though I'm personally leaning towards gopher than gemini. It's more minimal and it forces you to be more creative with text files and gophermaps.

5 2022-05-21 13:15

Oops. Agree with >>3.

6 2022-05-21 13:22

use tor. its a data draining datamining corpo ip honeypot browser

7 2022-05-21 13:43

>>6
The Tor Browser is based on Mozilla Firefox, which is not a simple piece of software. I am looking for alternatives to the World Wide Web.

8 2022-05-21 15:42

>>7
You can also try finger. It's an old protocol similar to gopher but it's extremely primitive. The traditional fingerd only gives you a single "page" to work with though I believe that there are other implementations that allow you to have multiple .plan files.

9 2022-05-21 22:24

What do you actually want from the WWW? What's your use-case?

10 2022-05-22 00:43

well, textboards such as this one can be adapted to run over ssh, and I suppose a lot of the other core uses of the internet could be made to work the same way, eg amazon could become a text only digital catalogue of goods, if bezos was willing to ditch the convenient graphical interface it has now for no benefit besides satisfying your efficiency autism

11 2022-05-22 01:00

Use web scraping like a real pro. You get to choose what you see, and to script your interactikns with websites.
Protip: professor sites in university servers (.edu domains) often come with plenty of actual content in static pages.

12 2022-05-22 01:34

>>10
The Usenet protocol is ancient. Textboards were designed to be the WWW equivalent of Usenet message boards.

13 2022-05-22 03:56

A pig finds dirst anywhere. In case of that simple alternative is embraced it is a matter of time when someone finds something Turing-complete in it or introduce some (first incompatible) extension to it. A document is ultimately a program for some virtual machine. What is really needed is a decent software distribution system and sandboxing capabilities. It is also needed to enforce some standards so coprorations don't bury valuable data under whistle-farting ads-ridden bloats of design and UI, but this is a topic for another board.

14 2022-05-22 06:14

Fix: A pig finds dirt everywhere.

15 2022-06-11 16:59

Theres not need for alternate protocols imo. Autists should just make a browser which only display important html tags and has custom css feature built in. I know a lot of sites that use pure html and no css and they are perfectly readable.

16 2022-06-11 19:22

>>15
Sounds like eww.

17 2022-06-12 08:26

>>15
XML no good, parsing hard.
Gopher/Gemini too ad hoc, so naive.
Need SEXP for both content and styles.

18 2022-06-12 08:46

>>17
cont.
Substitute lisp os for (web browser + wasm), get it? We can emulate it in the browser already. Hope to see a prototype soon™ by somebody.

19


VIP:

do not edit these