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Why are comfy venues like this so dead?

1 2019-12-02 16:26

As far as my taste goes, this board would rank as the top spot for prog chit-chat, over the faux-cypherpunk style imageboards and naturally over the well-known and much more popular and frequented not-so-anon/ephemeral vote-each-others places with account names.

But why is this so niche? A small handful of threads a day would be just nice without overloading our capacities, but it looks more like an even smaller handful of threads a month here.

Programming continues to grow leaps and bounds in terms of "quantity of players" as it has since it first arrived on the planet as an activity, yet proper comfy places like this whither and scramble. Though they're much better suited for focusing on topic with much less or regard to to others' or own identity/ego (votes / account names / avatar pics etc). Not to kick off the good ole obvious quantity/quality discussion (though.. why not, it's quiet enough already here)...

Text-based, pure content & knowledge, identifying truths and falsehoods. Weren't those the "pillars of programmers" once? Why are they all peacocking around elsewhere, debating the relative bells & whistles, glitz & glamour of various semi-related shiny-hypes-of-the-moment..

Sure, then there's the crowd that just lives in code because all chit-chat is ultimately leading nowhere. Fair enough, that's me 99.9% of the time. And other leisurely diversions for the occasional badly-needed brain-recharge abound. Still, I was pondering and since not much talk pervades this place (peaceful, in a way), why not share the pondering, like once in a decade..

2 2019-12-03 09:45

But why is this so niche?

I prefer using an imageboard. As much of what I do here is responsive, I use it less as others use it less.

Programming continues to grow leaps and bounds in terms of "quantity of players" as it has since it first arrived on the planet as an activity, yet proper comfy places like this whither and scramble.

Most of those "players" aren't worth anything and even more are only in it for the money.

Still, I was pondering and since not much talk pervades this place (peaceful, in a way), why not share the pondering, like once in a decade..

IRC is better for chitchat.

3 2019-12-03 16:28 *

Because programmers are autistics.

4 2019-12-03 19:46

Threads here do get replies (as you can see here), but most anons just aren't in the habit of starting new threads themselves.
I usually only post here when I've got something to post about, and that happens not to be the case very often.
I do agree that it's a pretty comfy place though.
>>2
I tend to dislike IRC because I feel obligated to make myself familiar with the names and personas of the frequent posters. The social element just finds a way to detract from the experience for me. It's possible that I simply have not found the right places, and that there are servers out there that I'd enjoy.

5 2019-12-11 08:30

I generally dislike synchronous communication. I prefer composing excellent replies to excellent messages. Unless the message is trivial (which must, still, be carefully formed), I shall publish literature only of high literarity.

6 2019-12-26 05:25 *

>>1
You have to dig a lot to find this BBS. First you have to hear about japanese anonymous textboards, then search for alive western 2ch-clones and so on. An even harder way would be to look for software that has been developed with MIT Scheme. I am still marveling at the fact that this place is even alive.

7 2019-12-29 16:16

most anons just aren't in the habit of starting new threads themselves.

I would think that it's healthier for a forum to have many more replies than initial posts. The whole point being discussion, and all that.

8 2019-12-30 20:45

>>6

I am still marveling at the fact that this place is even alive.

Same here and I wish it stays like this.

9 2020-01-10 00:04

I'll see her one day

10 2020-01-10 01:30 *

Medusa: I hope so.

11 2020-01-29 04:49

The vote-each-other places do eat up a lot of the resources. I don't participate in those, but I feel like most of the links my friends send me come from those places. It then feels silly to go to an anon board and post the same link "everyone" saw already. I believe without vote-each-other places this place would be a lot more lively since people will still want to share programming content, and have discussions about it.

12 2020-02-02 23:37

As far as my taste goes, this board would rank as the top spot for prog chit-chat, over the faux-cypherpunk style imageboards and naturally over the well-known and much more popular and frequented not-so-anon/ephemeral vote-each-others places with account names.

But why is this so niche?

You've answered your own question. It offers nothing that the others don't do better. I suggest you put "Status as a Service" in your favorite search engine. Its conclusions apply even to the most anonymous of sites.

13 2020-02-10 04:50

>>12 Still it would be nice for this place to get more activity.

14 2020-02-10 18:47

In my experience: if you post, people will come. Or at least stay.

15 2021-04-03 17:19

I'd argue that venues like this are comfy because they are so dead. Post quality was relatively high from the beginning, with it moving so slowly users don't check constantly which throws away the "urgency" to respond and allows for well crafted answers. At the same time, new users are rare because this place is somewhat hard to find and they see that they need to commit time since as previously said answers take time to come. This makes it so only those really interested will participate, and they will follow the established non-rules of high post quality.
If this place had been more popular, answers would come quicker and new users would interact as their interaction would bring immediate result. They would also keep coming for instant gratification, initial user base would be invaded and post quality would lower as "trolling" would become a possibility and "hot" reactions to other posts happen.
Sadly, the masses ruin everything, and so it is both a blessing and a curse that comfy places forever shall be dead.

16 2021-04-04 04:42

Like what >>12 said. Anons might like /Q&A/ and /ShowTime/ beside /prog/

17 2024-04-06 22:42

meow

18 2024-04-07 07:11

This textboard, Scheme, and SICP are too elitist. These are only attractive to the members (or wannabes) of the modern priestly class of academics. What do the commoners of he third estate want? Less thinking, more tabloid gossip, more eye candy (including various kinds of pornography), and anything else that could satisfy the code monkeys. The commoners love to gossip and buy the latest hot proprietary closed-source cool technologies. The uncomfortable truth is that Google's goolag is more attractive than the GNUlag.

19 2024-04-07 11:26

>>14
>>17
This place would get more activity if more people dug through the thread list and necroposted more. The most active threads at the time of writing are just arguments about scheme, and not anything actually useful.
Someone's making a thread about making money, that's a tongue-in-cheek thread that I wish got more serious.

20 2024-04-07 13:29 *

schemebbs comfy venue

lol

Text-based, pure content & knowledge, identifying truths and falsehoods

comfy lmao
>>19
sides

21 2024-04-07 18:07

>>19
I, for one, necropost all the time. Sometimes I bring back a thread that had 5 posts and it ends up with 50. Sometimes I make a thread and it gets no replies for months, and then someone else bumps it and it thrives. The depth of this board's archive is a powerful asset.

22 2024-04-07 19:20 *

This site is far from dead, in fact it's fairly active as far as textboards go, with a handful of posts per day on average. If you're used to the speed of places like 4chan it feels slow, but that's just how textboards are. If you want more activity then put your money where your mouth is and start posting, but keep in mind what >>15 said. Threads like this are a great way to kill a site for real.

>>19,21
I never understood the hate-boner people have for necroposting on western forums, and I'm glad textboards usually aren't like that. I bumped a thread from the bottom a while ago and it ended up being one of the most interesting things on the site.

23 2024-04-08 02:40

>>21,22
I'm a relatively new user to this board and at first, the slow speed hit my /g/-calibrated behaviors like a brick wall. Everything on /g/ demands you stick around all day just to see replies because the shallow (and read-only) archive erases everything away. This leads to the same bait being posted endlessly, when I moved over to here, I initially couldn't even comprehend that there is a deep archive. It's a fresh discovery for me (hence this enthusiastic reply)

It's commendable to be disciplined when creating threads. Go and read through existing conversation to avoid repeating things. Bump something old, your comment gets replies all the same, but you continue that long and hopefully interesting and comprehensive conversation. That's the experience.

A fast, disorganized text/image board is just IRC or *shudders* Discord chat you have to refresh manually. Drivel so pointless that it's not even worth logging longer than a few days.

24 2024-04-08 21:49

It doesn't feel like it's been over four years since I last responded to this thread.

I still check my favourite thread for replies, but there very rarely are any nowadays. I'll mention it here:
https://textboard.org/prog/13

It's one of the oldest and longest threads on this forum. Read it, respond to it, and I'll be there to reply.

25 2024-04-08 23:43 *

>>24

I'm sorry you are not verisimilitudes nor is he coming back.

Multiple personalities have existed on the bbs and they are gone now, yet it's still alive just not obnoxiously so.

Verisimilitudes had interesting and genuine opinions, something that is only 5% of this site, please study and respond to those threads if you have something to say instead of bumping this meta thread that doesn't belong on /prog/ nor adds anything of value to the 3-5 users left. Ben is set in his vipping ways. Maybe you could spend effort digging through and find that thread about the closed lambda forum again, it has the content you desire.

26 2024-04-08 23:59 *

Well I shouldn't but I will there was a DQN identity known as the irregex nerd that is the polar opposite of genuine and interesting. Then less desirables like a cloud DQN came along.

27 2024-04-09 00:47

>>25
This incredulity confuses me. I've made a few posts therein during this year so far, but they hardly matter if no one replies to them.

28 2024-04-09 01:19 *

>>27
I'm vary sorry, that's how life works. Vast majority of the content I put effort into gets ignored everywhere on the internet, don't be solipsistic about it, it's unhealthy for the sol.

I've grown over the decades to consider how much effort I output in ratio to the chances of anyone reading it or even responding and registering it. Many complain in turn that it's comprehensible when I'm extremely sloppy and thanks to the complaints I can tell they are attempting to read it.

29 2024-04-09 01:28 *

*incomprehensible

Effort gauge fell off.

30 2024-04-09 04:11

>>28
No, that's not what confused me. I'm Verisimilitude, and the insistence to the contrary is what confused me.

31 2024-04-09 08:03 *

>>30
It's okay, pal. You can drop the charade.

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